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This page is devoted to discussions regarding specific in-vehicle technologies: cell phones, navigation systems, night vision systems, wireless Internet, and information and entertainment systems, among others. The purpose is to provide an avenue for drivers to share their experiences with, and impressions of these technologies so that benefits of these systems can be realized without causing unsafe driver distraction. Although specific in-vehicle devices are emphasized here, comment and discussion relevant to other non-technological or conventional sources of distraction are also welcome. Be sure to take or view results of our informal polls.

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Cell Phones
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Navigation Systems
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Night Vision Systems
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Wireless Internet (E-mail)
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Information & Entertainment Systems
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Other
            
comments   To My Kids   7/5/00 12:46:08 PM

comments   Kids, etc.   7/9/00 8:13:29 PM

comments   Children may be the root of All Evil   7/14/00 7:10:42 AM

comments   Left lane slow drivers   7/14/00 7:20:06 AM

comments   How do you know they are slow in the left lane??   7/14/00 5:42:15 PM

comments   Women and mirrors   7/14/00 5:45:30 PM

comments   Bright Running Lights   7/14/00 9:12:04 PM

comments   Question those statistics!   7/14/00 11:12:07 PM

comments   people overly distracted by their children    7/15/00 1:00:36 AM

comments   Your speedometer is an indicator of your speed.   7/15/00 4:01:02 AM

comments   Kids not necessarily the root of All Evil   7/15/00 4:15:37 AM

comments   Is it just me, or what?   7/15/00 4:21:16 AM

comments   If it's illegal to have a TV within view of the driver, why should cell-phones be any different?   7/15/00 11:33:58 AM

comments   The Speed Limit is slow in the left lane   7/15/00 12:17:09 PM

comments   Daytime running lights   7/15/00 5:05:19 PM

comments   Billboards, mobile billboards, and "autowraps" and other advertising   7/16/00 12:08:51 PM

comments   OUTDOOR ELECTRONIC ADVERTISING   7/17/00 5:44:03 PM

comments   Not Just Electronic Equipment!   7/18/00 3:05:19 PM

comments   Vacant and Careless Drivers   7/18/00 5:39:31 PM

comments   Billboards are intended to be distracting.   7/18/00 8:02:56 PM

comments   saab night panel (illumination)   7/18/00 8:48:57 PM

comments   Personal grooming   7/18/00 11:40:00 PM

comments   Electronic advertising in Portland, Oregon   7/18/00 11:50:47 PM

comments   Bright lights day and night, a.k.a., DRLs, "highway lights", brights, etc.   7/19/00 6:29:48 AM

comments   Driver Fatigue biggest problem on the roads   7/19/00 6:37:29 AM

comments   Sign of the Times-Live With It   7/19/00 8:23:23 PM

comments   Develop a driver alarm system to warn of pedestrians/bicycles also using roadway nearby   7/19/00 10:16:40 PM

comments   READING BOOKS AND NEWSPAPERS!   7/20/00 11:01:56 AM

comments   It's what you make as your main focus that is important; distractions are nothing new   7/20/00 3:44:44 PM

comments   It's called the PASSING lane for a reason   7/23/00 2:00:55 PM

comments   Slow in left lane   7/23/00 2:06:50 PM

comments   Daytime running lights   7/23/00 2:20:39 PM

comments   WHY IS THE NHSTA TAKING SO LONG?   7/25/00 11:02:45 AM

comments   Daytime Running Lights   7/26/00 7:16:46 AM

comments   I HATE DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS   7/26/00 7:56:15 AM

comments   Daytime Running Lights are the worst hazard on the road   7/26/00 8:11:50 AM

comments   Who initiated Daytime running lights?   7/27/00 3:32:04 AM

comments   Lights on during the day very disturbing   7/27/00 11:34:41 AM

comments   why is the nhsta taking so long?   7/27/00 11:38:34 AM

comments   Too many big trucks   7/27/00 3:01:24 PM

comments   Question your own ethics   7/27/00 3:35:48 PM

comments   Yeah, right   7/27/00 3:45:24 PM

comments   America home of the stupid laws!   7/29/00 9:08:11 AM

comments   Who pushed Canada    7/29/00 10:18:40 PM

comments   DRLs = Biggest Classaction Lawsuit Coming in History   7/30/00 12:58:36 PM

comments   Who pushed Canada?   7/30/00 11:17:56 PM

comments   DRLs - A Different Perspective   7/31/00 12:18:14 AM

comments   DRLs Indeed are a hazard   7/31/00 9:52:31 AM

comments   Indiana Tri-Level Study of Traffic Accident Causation   8/1/00 7:11:46 AM

comments   READING BOOKS AND NEWSPAPERS!   8/1/00 2:13:58 PM

comments   Drivers over 70   8/1/00 8:44:41 PM

comments   RE: Drivers over 70    8/2/00 6:42:04 AM

comments   RE: READING BOOKS AND NEWSPAPERS   8/2/00 7:15:31 AM

comments   NHTSA activities re DRLs   8/2/00 10:45:37 AM

comments   Agree, plus target young driver as well   8/2/00 7:46:35 PM

comments   Kids too young?   8/3/00 1:01:03 AM

comments   Re; Drivers over 70   8/3/00 8:57:16 AM

comments   HELP ME SOMEONE!!! DRL's Are Out of Control!   8/3/00 10:27:48 AM

comments   For the MANY who find DRLs DANGEROUS please visit www.lightsout.org   8/3/00 12:23:45 PM

comments   DRLs & "In Your Face" Drivers   8/3/00 4:53:25 PM

comments   DAYTIME HEADLIGHTS ARE THE WORST DISTRACTION   8/3/00 9:50:18 PM

comments   DRLs from a motorcyclist point of view   8/4/00 7:55:16 AM

comments   Agree - Left Lane Bandits started road rage!   8/4/00 8:03:05 AM

comments   DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS (DRL'S)   8/4/00 8:08:02 AM

comments   Daytime Running Lights - WHY?   8/4/00 8:28:27 AM

comments   live with it?   8/4/00 12:14:09 PM

comments   Running lights from the rear.   8/4/00 12:32:10 PM

comments   Please! Give us some relief from DRLs!   8/4/00 5:49:55 PM

Why the delay?
I appreciate the efforts of NHTSA in dealing with DRLs, and it's recognition of the glare problem. I also understand that there's a heavy workload for the Safety Performance Standards group. However, it's been over two years since NHTSA proposed changes to FMVSS 108 and nothing has been done. It appears that we're now looking at October or December as a target date for the final rule. Given that these target dates tend to slip, can't we get some immediate relief from high beam DRLs? Then work on getting the intensity down on the low beam DRLs and dedicated DRLs. Perhaps a series of supplemental rule changes would work. However, we'll still arrive at the question, "Should we even have DRLs?" Thus far, the DRL experiment in the US has been an utter failure, so it's hard to answer that question in the affirmative.

Had the original proposed changes been implemented, even with their inadequacies in controlling low beam DRL intensities (needs to apply to the entire beam pattern, not just the top half), high beam DRLs would have been gone by now. Unfortunately, each delay for the final rule means hundreds of thousands of vehicles hitting the road with DRLs producing unacceptable levels of glare. If the "satisfactory" intensity for DRLs is somewhere between 500 and 1000 cd (according the the Kirkpatrick study cited in NHTSA's proposed rule change), why are drivers still forced to endure 7000+ cd on so many vehicles?

Effectiveness?
Regarding NHTSA's preliminary assessment of DRL effectiveness, I've read the report and I'll reserve my comments for either another post here or to the docket.

DRLs are a distraction!
Now, for my own personal experience with DRLs and their distraction effect. On a four-lane road with a left turn lane shared by both directions of traffic, I was entering the left turn lane while approaching a street intersection. A recent model BMW sedan was on the opposite side of the intersection also making a left turn. When I entered the turn lane, the BMW's high glare, high beam DRLs hit my eyes and startled me for a few seconds. This momentarily took my attention away from oncoming traffic in the two lanes I was about to cross. Because I could no longer accurately determine the distance and closing speed of the oncoming traffic, I quickly aborted my left turn. Fortunately, a trailing car also making a left turn was sufficiently far behind me to come to a stop before hitting me. The bottom line: if the BMW did not have highly offensive DRLs blasting through my windshield, I could have safely made the turn, and the potential for disaster could have been avoided. If this isn't a dangerous example of distraction, I don't know what is.

The benefits are DRLs are questionable.
The hazards of DRLs are clear.
It's time for DRLs to be eliminated.




comments   DRLs are a stupid idea.   8/4/00 6:57:08 PM

comments   DRLs and risk to motorcyclists   8/4/00 11:03:22 PM

comments   Why does GM get away with it?   8/5/00 2:28:22 PM

comments   Big Trucks On The Interstate   8/5/00 2:33:57 PM

comments   DRL causes driver distractions on roadways   8/7/00 1:42:15 PM

comments   Sign of the Times--Live With It   8/8/00 10:53:26 AM

comments   Yes, but...   8/8/00 10:31:05 PM

comments   DRLs, headlights, and highway lights using high powered, focused beams   8/9/00 6:12:21 AM

comments   NHTSA- -Preliminary Assessment- - - -DRLs   8/9/00 12:24:19 PM

comments   Headlight glare getting out of control   8/9/00 9:31:53 PM

comments   DRLs in accident reports?   8/10/00 11:54:59 AM

comments   Ban DRL's - the NHSTA Should Be Ashamed   8/10/00 4:12:38 PM

comments   Effectiveness of DRL in Canada   8/11/00 9:15:32 AM

comments   Police officers should not be exempt from any new regulation   8/11/00 10:03:49 AM

comments   Response to Transport Canada posting re DRLs   8/11/00 3:25:31 PM

comments   DRL, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS   8/11/00 4:03:20 PM

comments   DRLs a menace and anyone who believes they are not is very misguided   8/11/00 4:08:42 PM

comments   Very Informative Posts Regarding DRLS   8/11/00 4:34:40 PM

comments   Transport Canada rebuttal   8/11/00 4:56:14 PM

comments   Keep Your Stupid Drls in Canada Then   8/11/00 5:38:36 PM

comments   It's the GLARE   8/11/00 6:51:18 PM

comments   SLOW DOWN, REDUCE FUEL CONSUMPTION & POLLUTION, INCREASE SAFETY   8/12/00 12:44:40 AM

comments   DRLs Damaged My Eyes    8/13/00 4:00:40 PM

comments   Just found - If Not Too Late - please submit comment re strong disapproval of drls   8/13/00 5:58:58 PM